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Nutsedge
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05/06/23 04:26 PM
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Nutsedge sucks. I am losing the war. Last year I applied Sedgehammer. One application in the spring, I thought things were golden. It turned all the sedge yellow for a few weeks, but then it came right back with a vengeance. Later in the summer I did two more applications a few weeks apart to no effect.
Two weeks ago I sprayed Image. The nutsedge again is yellowing, but I don't want to repeat last year's failure.
Do I go back with another app of Image? Do I spray an app of sedgehammer so to have two different active ingredients at play? Do I hit it with both?
Or do I burn it all down and start over?
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Re: Nutsedge
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#14712397
05/06/23 04:56 PM
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Derek ๐
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Image is pretty slow to work. Probably be another 2 weeks and the sedge sprayed should die. I like to save image for summer time. You can go back with hammer. Itโs pretty slow too. You might try Sedge Ender now with the temps overall not too hot. It's Sulfentrazone and should work well for you.
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Re: Nutsedge
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#14712699
05/07/23 12:33 AM
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Several years ago we had a garden that was overrun by nutsedge, I gave up the fight and ended up tearing it all out and leveling the garden soil out for a lawn area. The bermuda took over quickly and the nutsedge disappeared. I read that improving the soil will get rid of it, I'm thinking that was the case by spreading the garden soil out and letting the bermuda take over.
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Re: Nutsedge
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05/07/23 01:34 AM
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The bad soil tracks with my yard. Builders in my hood just rolled out sod right over the clay - barely even leveled it. Iโve been spreading some topsoil each year to level things out, but probably not enough to make a dent in the overall quality.
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Re: Nutsedge
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#14712945
05/07/23 01:09 PM
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Oldrabbit
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I have had good luck with Image in the yard. The first time I used it I got the same results that you did. I went back and read the instructions again and I missed the part about watering it in to get the chemicals into the ground. Once I started doing that, I have killed most all of it.
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Re: Nutsedge
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#14712958
05/07/23 01:25 PM
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TPACK
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Several years ago we had a garden that was overrun by nutsedge, I gave up the fight and ended up tearing it all out and leveling the garden soil out for a lawn area. The bermuda took over quickly and the nutsedge disappeared. I read that improving the soil will get rid of it, I'm thinking that was the case by spreading the garden soil out and letting the bermuda take over. I had a garden for about 10 years. After several years the nutsedge showed up and got worse year after year. I finally threw in the towel and gave up. Sold my tiller and never looked back. Now I have 2 neighbors that have gardens and give us fresh vegetables for watering when they are gone. Good deal for both of us.
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Re: Nutsedge
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#14712981
05/07/23 01:44 PM
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crapyetr
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Now I have 2 neighbors that have gardens and give us fresh vegetables for watering when they are gone. Good deal for both of us.
right there is the reason i plant wayyyyyyyyyyy more that we can consume [i.e., 200 onion slips]; God gives us all different talents; gardening is a talent; what we, as gardeners, can grow that others can't give us the blessing of sharing our talent
MERCY - not receiving what you deserve GRACE - receiving what you don't deserve America's MESS = God's miracle fixes I'd rather walk with God with no questions answered than to walk thru life without Him and know the answers
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Re: Nutsedge
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05/16/23 05:47 PM
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Well I did a 2nd app of Image 4 days ago. After the 2nd spray, several spots where the nutsedge was yellow is now brown and crispy. Most of the spots where the sedge was still green, it is now yellowing.
Hopefully this is the end of it. I'll give it to the end of the month, then start in on whatever is left with Sedgehammer.
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Re: Nutsedge
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05/16/23 05:53 PM
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Derek ๐
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The way the water drains from my neighbors my backyard stays pretty moist during spring and I get a lot of sedge back there every year. I'm going to let it go another week or so and spray it. My front drains great and I get almost none there.
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Re: Nutsedge
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08/10/23 01:32 AM
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Okay, bumping this thread again. Iโve gone from about 80% of the yard splatter painted with nutsedge, to just a few clumps here and there. While I am happy with the progress, I wonโt be satisfied with anything less than total annihilation.
Does the heat affect the efficacy of either Image or Sedgehammer?
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Re: Nutsedge
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08/10/23 02:06 AM
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Derek ๐
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Heat won't bother either. No temp restrictions on either. You've already applied 2 apps of Image so you're probably at your yearly max rate. Go with Sedgehammer. It's a very safe product. Sedge has been really bad this year. You might look at applying Sedge Ender (Sulfentrazone) early next spring as it's really the only known pre emergent for sedge and save your Image/Sedgehammer apps for summer. Sedge will be a never ending battle.
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Re: Nutsedge
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#14806091
08/10/23 02:54 AM
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Sedgehammer takes a month to fully work. It is almost gone over here now.
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Re: Nutsedge
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08/10/23 07:00 PM
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greenen
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Sedgehammer takes a month to fully work. It is almost gone over here now. Mine too. It just takes a minute to see the results. I'm spot spraying when I see it and over the last month or so have seen good results. PITA though.
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Re: Nutsedge
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08/10/23 10:34 PM
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Oldrabbit
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Sedgehammer takes a month to fully work. It is almost gone over here now. Mine too. It just takes a minute to see the results. I'm spot spraying when I see it and over the last month or so have seen good results. PITA though. Good to know the results are quick. I have applied Image and want to go back and spot treat a few areas, so I will get some Sedgehammer and give it a try.
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Re: Nutsedge
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08/12/23 02:04 AM
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Derek ๐
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Sedgehammer takes a month to fully work. It is almost gone over here now. Mine too. It just takes a minute to see the results. I'm spot spraying when I see it and over the last month or so have seen good results. PITA though. Good to know the results are quick. I have applied Image and want to go back and spot treat a few areas, so I will get some Sedgehammer and give it a try. Results aren't quick. "takes a minute" is a figure of speech meaning it takes a while.
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Re: Nutsedge
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08/12/23 12:48 PM
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Sedgehammer takes a month to fully work. It is almost gone over here now. Mine too. It just takes a minute to see the results. I'm spot spraying when I see it and over the last month or so have seen good results. PITA though. Good to know the results are quick. I have applied Image and want to go back and spot treat a few areas, so I will get some Sedgehammer and give it a try. Results aren't quick. "takes a minute" is a figure of speech meaning it takes a while. Thanks for the clarification. I am used to it taking quite awhile for the results to show and was surprised that it would work that quickly. I thought it was something new.
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Re: Nutsedge
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#14814782
08/17/23 09:02 PM
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greenen
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Always good to have folks clarify my clarity.
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Re: Nutsedge
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#14829051
09/02/23 08:36 PM
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ez_4_u00
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I sprayed MSMA three weeks ago and killed my Dallas Grass problem and Nutsedge, my Bermuda yellowed but is coming back. 2 oz. per gallon when it starts to yellow, hit it again.
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Re: Nutsedge
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12/04/23 12:52 PM
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That nut grass has a root system that looks like a backlash. The roots are linked together. I think thatโs why itโs so hard to kill.
Iโve had great success with image. I usually spray it early in the spring according to the temperature recommendation. It will usually knock the grass back some but it will snap back pretty quickly.
I will be using my theory early next year.
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Re: Nutsedge
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12/06/23 02:28 AM
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Derek ๐
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That nut grass has a root system that looks like a backlash. The roots are linked together. I think thatโs why itโs so hard to kill.
Iโve had great success with image. I usually spray it early in the spring according to the temperature recommendation. It will usually knock the grass back some but it will snap back pretty quickly.
I will be using my theory early next year.
Bloo I would tread very lightly with this approach. There is no temperature restrictions on it but when to apply it. Image is not a product you want to apply coming out of winter into spring.transition. The reason you saw it knock back grass is its a growth stopper for about a 2-3 week period. Granted like you mentioned it will bounce back for the most part but I have seen nice lawns ravaged by Image sprayed at the wrong time, late winter to early spring. Label states this too. Assuming you're hose end spraying. Better approach would be something like Sedge Ender early (sulfentrazone) and keep Image as your go to in summer for a follow up app. Nutsedge will be a never ending battle depending on your drainage. I have every chemical known to man and still get it. Sedge Ender has Prodiamine pre emergent in it. Which most of y'all forget to apply in winter for spring. So maybe that's a bonus?
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Re: Nutsedge
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#14920381
12/07/23 03:21 PM
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MAK747
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Hi Derek
When you state "Which most of y'all forget to apply in winter for spring.", are you referring to the fall application of Prodiamine, or is there also a winter application needed?
THANKS MAK
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Re: Nutsedge
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12/07/23 04:33 PM
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Derek ๐
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Hi Derek
When you state "Which most of y'all forget to apply in winter for spring.", are you referring to the fall application of Prodiamine, or is there also a winter application needed?
THANKS MAK The winter/spring application in February.
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Re: Nutsedge
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#14920917
12/07/23 10:38 PM
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Nutsedge still sucks...post count thing.
Whether you think you can or you can't, you are probably right.
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Re: Nutsedge
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12/27/23 11:55 AM
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good drainage helps as nutsedge likes it wet
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