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Refurbished Ionic #14825385 08/28/23 06:25 PM
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Anyone bought and tried the refurbished Ionics? They are half price….just wondering if they are a waste of money.


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I’ve never seen one, where did you see them at?

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LithiumHub’s eBay page https://www.ebay.com/itm/314538698036
They have most of the batteries they sell on there for about half price. The 12v 50Ah is only $175. The only things they don’t have, that I’ve noticed, is 36v batteries and chargers. They have about a 97% satisfaction rating. Hundreds of reviews.

I think I’m a tight [censored] just enough to try it. Think I’m gonna order a 24v 50Ah and a cranking 125Ah 12 volt.

You savvy with chargers? Do you know if I bought a 3-bank charger and series connected to banks, if it would charge a 24volt? I know you can series two regular chargers, that are the same make and model, and charge a 24 volt lead acid.


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Not so much with the chargers, but I don’t think you can get 24v out of a 12v charger. I’d definitely google that one.

They are dang sure cheaper, but 30 day warranty. Man, I don’t know if i could do it, I don’t have good luck.

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Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
LithiumHub’s eBay page https://www.ebay.com/itm/314538698036
They have most of the batteries they sell on there for about half price. The 12v 50Ah is only $175. The only things they don’t have, that I’ve noticed, is 36v batteries and chargers. They have about a 97% satisfaction rating. Hundreds of reviews.

I think I’m a tight [censored] just enough to try it. Think I’m gonna order a 24v 50Ah and a cranking 125Ah 12 volt.

You savvy with chargers? Do you know if I bought a 3-bank charger and series connected to banks, if it would charge a 24volt? I know you can series two regular chargers, that are the same make and model, and charge a 24 volt lead acid.


Can’t charge 24v with a 12v charger. Ionic makes a 24/12 dual bank charger.

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LithiumHub’s eBay page https://www.ebay.com/itm/314538698036
They have most of the batteries they sell on there for about half price. The 12v 50Ah is only $175. The only things they don’t have, that I’ve noticed, is 36v batteries and chargers. They have about a 97% satisfaction rating. Hundreds of reviews.

I think I’m a tight [censored] just enough to try it. Think I’m gonna order a 24v 50Ah and a cranking 125Ah 12 volt.

You savvy with chargers? Do you know if I bought a 3-bank charger and series connected to banks, if it would charge a 24volt? I know you can series two regular chargers, that are the same make and model, and charge a 24 volt lead acid.


Can’t charge 24v with a 12v charger. Ionic makes a 24/12 dual bank charger.



Well. Ya can, but it probably ain’t the best idea. I found out that the dual pro 3 bank charger is essentially three completely separate chargers in one case. I could series bank one and two to generate a 24 volt combined output, then use the 3rd bank to charge a single 12v battery. The chargers I have are not compatible with lithium, so I bought a Noco genius pro 10x3. So it’s a moot point. roflmao

I figured I would lose over 150 pounds out of the bilge. I have 2 oriellys group 31’s at 58.5lbs each. One group 31 Bluetop at 61.4 pounds, and a Bluetop 34 at 38.4 pounds. I have a three bank dual pro and a single dual pro.

The Ionics weigh 17.5 each for the 12v 50Ah (which I decided to go with since they are slightly cheaper than a single 24), and the 12v 125Ah weighs 34.2 pounds.

$745 for all three batteries with free shipping. Almost $400 less than what I paid for the original 4 optima’s.


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LithiumHub’s eBay page https://www.ebay.com/itm/314538698036
They have most of the batteries they sell on there for about half price. The 12v 50Ah is only $175. The only things they don’t have, that I’ve noticed, is 36v batteries and chargers. They have about a 97% satisfaction rating. Hundreds of reviews.

I think I’m a tight [censored] just enough to try it. Think I’m gonna order a 24v 50Ah and a cranking 125Ah 12 volt.

You savvy with chargers? Do you know if I bought a 3-bank charger and series connected to banks, if it would charge a 24volt? I know you can series two regular chargers, that are the same make and model, and charge a 24 volt lead acid.


Can’t charge 24v with a 12v charger. Ionic makes a 24/12 dual bank charger.



Well. Ya can, but it probably ain’t the best idea. I found out that the dual pro 3 bank charger is essentially three completely separate chargers in one case. I could series bank one and two to generate a 24 volt combined output, then use the 3rd bank to charge a single 12v battery. The chargers I have are not compatible with lithium, so I bought a Noco genius pro 10x3. So it’s a moot point. roflmao

I figured I would lose over 150 pounds out of the bilge. I have 2 oriellys group 31’s at 58.5lbs each. One group 31 Bluetop at 61.4 pounds, and a Bluetop 34 at 38.4 pounds. I have a three bank dual pro and a single dual pro.

The Ionics weigh 17.5 each for the 12v 50Ah (which I decided to go with since they are slightly cheaper than a single 24), and the 12v 125Ah weighs 34.2 pounds.

$745 for all three batteries with free shipping. Almost $400 less than what I paid for the original 4 optima’s.


I went all in with Ionics almost 2 years ago. 3 50’s, a 125 and their charger. Replaced 3 group 29’s, a group 31 X2 and a dual pro charger. Lost about 190# and have to say, they still amaze me.

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I’d say no.

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Originally Posted by forkduc
I’d say no.

Why? They have a warranty.


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Because they have no history!
Revisit in a year.

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Because they have no history!
Revisit in a year.

Ionic batteries have been around quite a while. Most of the returned batteries are returned due to owner inability to install correctly, charge correctly, or link their out dated phone to the Bluetooth features. I have talked to the guys at LithiumHub and they said the batteries function as if they are new, the main differences being cycle counts. None of them are beyond 1/4 of their expected cycles. So I can expect 75% of the lifespan of a new battery for half the price. Sounds like a win to me. I just bought them and paid $530 LESS for them than I did my Optima batteries. My Optima batteries are worn out after 3 years and never really were that great from day one. I wound up adding a 4th battery to get though the day with pumps running and electronics running….even with putting the console stuff on standby when I was in the trolling motor.

The 3 batteries I bought theoretically have more power and runtime than the 4 they are replacing. I also have a crack on one of my chargers (going on 4 years), so I have been hesitant to clean the bilge of the boat for fear of ruining one of them. I needed a new charger, could use new batteries, and decided to go ahead and do it. I bought three Ionics, and a Noco GenPro 3x10 $1050 shipped. If it lasts 3 or 4 years, it’s money in the bank.

I’ll be the test mule. cheers


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They may be some of the ones I returned awhile back. Three 12v 50ah batteries would not last more than 4-5 hours in a moderate use day. FWIW, ask how many hour charge cycles on each battery. Good luck.,


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Buy new ones. Price has came down and you can get a discount on Bass Boat Central.

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Ionics have been great batteries, I have sold and installed a ton of them. Their chargers have gone through a phase or two, but you will not go wrong at all with the NOCO. The NOCO is in my opinion the best all-around charger available.

As with any used piece of electronics, there is no guarantee.

You said it clearly, most returns are user error or just not knowing how to wake them up after running dead.

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Well they sent me a brand new one. Already linked the bluetooth and it has 61% charge. 100% perfect “health” and only 1 charge cycle. …not bad or $395. [Linked Image]


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Well they sent me a brand new one. Already linked the bluetooth and it has 61% charge. 100% perfect “health” and only 1 charge cycle. …not bad or $395. [Linked Image]


That's a heck of a deal.

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These batteries are legit!! I was a bit skeptical. I fished a tourney today. 7 hours of non-stop use. I had the live wells running 5 minutes into it. Active Target, three Carbons, lights for an hour, even had my sonic hub playing my 80’s music all day.

The 125 was at 83% charged and the 50’s were at 80% after I put it on the trailer. Impressive.


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Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
These batteries are legit!! I was a bit skeptical. I fished a tourney today. 7 hours of non-stop use. I had the live wells running 5 minutes into it. Active Target, three Carbons, lights for an hour, even had my sonic hub playing my 80’s music all day.

The 125 was at 83% charged and the 50’s were at 80% after I put it on the trailer. Impressive.


I’m going on 2 years now with mine. Still amazes me how they perform

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Love my Ionics! I run two of the 100ah for my 24v Ultres and don't think I could run them down in one day. I usually fish two or the times before I charge them...

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Originally Posted by TritonRob
Love my Ionics! I run two of the 100ah for my 24v Ultres and don't think I could run them down in one day. I usually fish two or the times before I charge them...

I’ve had mine for a couple weeks now. Two long saturdays, and three week night short tourneys. The Saturday tournaments, I only drawn them down to 80% or so. The evening tournaments they have been run as low as 93%. Funny to plug in the charger, open the Ionic app, and see that they will be fully charged in 18 minutes after fishing for 3 hours.
Been to the lake 5 times and I haven’t run them down low enough for it to count as a “cycle” on the battery status screen of the app.

They are impressive.


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Love mine. I've had mine for 3 years. I've run them out of power two times, but it is because one of them had failed. When one fails you won't be getting 36 volts, they simply quit working. When one fails it just needs to be re-booted. By rebooting all you do is hook it up to the charger, and then take another lithium battery and jump it, just like you are jumping a car battery. You will barely even notice a spark when it happens, but that is it, they told me it's a matter a re-booting the memory board on the inside of the battery. I'm sure the refurbished batteries are from someone who tried this method, but failed to do it correctly and sent it back for warranty, then once they got it back they did the reboot on them and they worked. Most important thing is to check them on the blue tooth app to make sure they are 100% charged. I will get lazy and just plug them in to charge them the night before I go out, then the next morning un-hook and go fish and not check the blue tooth app.

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Just ordered a 3 bank charger for $65 to put in the godevil....

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Warranty?

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Warranty?

30 days…but you’ll know immediately if one is not right.

I ordered 3. One was dead from the get go. I called tech support and described the situation and what the app said about the battery. The tech said nothing on the phone was gonna fix it. He overnighted me a new battery and sent a return label for the bad battery. He also said he was going to hand select a new battery for me. It literally was a new battery. He then included a bunch of little things like decals, brochures, and terminal cleaner/dressing packets.

I’d say the customer service was “power pole” good from Ionic.


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How long is a cycle on Ionic's . says they good for 3 to 5 thousand cycles .


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Originally Posted by Bandit 200 XP
How long is a cycle on Ionic's . says they good for 3 to 5 thousand cycles .

Discharging them below 80% is a cycle….I think.

I have fished mine now about 18-20 trips. I have 5 “cycles” on the 125ah and 3 cycles on one 50Ah and 2 cycles in the other 50Ah. I just don’t fish long enough to drain them down below the threshold that would count as a cycle.


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Reason for asking was i got 2 of the 50ah and one reads 12 cycles at 48ah , the other one reads 4 cycles at 50 ah . Both came charged at 99 % , thanks


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Saved $1,000 on mine that i bought from Ebay . Happy so far


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Not so happy now , I bought a 12v 50ah , so it shows up and and has a sticker on it and it says 12 v 48 ah , call customer service and he says drop it down to 20% , should fix it .
Was down to 49 % and shuts down , no nothing , no blue tooth , only used it twice . Charges back up to 12v 46 ah . That's why you only get 30 days warranty , $175.00 down the drain


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Not so happy now , I bought a 12v 50ah , so it shows up and and has a sticker on it and it says 12 v 48 ah , call customer service and he says drop it down to 20% , should fix it .
Was down to 49 % and shuts down , no nothing , no blue tooth , only used it twice . Charges back up to 12v 46 ah . That's why you only get 30 days warranty , $175.00 down the drain



Oof, sorry to hear about that experience. That sure is a bummer. Do you have an idea how long it takes to get to the 49%? I would assume the internal meter is accurate, but maybe it isn't.

I do have a basic capacity tester that can see how much is available..

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Hey Goodman , if you want it ,it's free to you , have already changed it out , fully charged 12v 46 ah . when it shut down i was running it wide open
I would not trust it on a trolling motor , when charging it gets a high voltage error , that's all i know
It took about 4 hrs to 49% , these was second time i used it when it quit . Roughly first trip i used 44 % , ran on high a bunch . 82 thrust troller with 2 , 12 v 50ah Ionic's
Was trying to get it down below 20% , That's what Ionic told me to do . Have a good day
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I bought 2 refurbished 50ah for Ghost trolling motor, one came with no cycles, the other 4 cycles. I have run them 8 hrs, mainly spot locked and no less than 58% drain. Great battery, service from Ionics.

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Good for you


You still butt hurt over it

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Good for you


You still butt hurt over it

This does not concern you


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Good for you


You still butt hurt over it

This does not concern you



lol, that’s definitely a yes. Look at the bright side Bandit, you might have saved someone else here some money, by telling the forum that you got a dud. thumb

I think Steeze owes you a new battery, it’s his fault that you bought them to begin with.

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I'm still a head on Ionic's , still saved over $ 850.00 roflmao


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Good for you


You still butt hurt over it

This does not concern you



lol, that’s definitely a yes. Look at the bright side Bandit, you might have saved someone else here some money, by telling the forum that you got a dud. thumb

I think Steeze owes you a new battery, it’s his fault that you bought them to begin with.


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