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Dragonfly Pattern

Posted By: builderal

Dragonfly Pattern - 05/26/08 08:12 PM

Hey Guys and Gals,

I just got back from Lake Fork and had sooo much fun watching bass blow up on my "store bought" dragonfly that i decided i would learn how to tie one. Problem is that I can't find a decent web link. Can anybody help me?

Thanks,

Alex
Posted By: Bass Bug

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 05/26/08 08:31 PM

heres a couple...good luck
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/intermediate/part22.php
http://www.eflytyer.com/patterns/dragon.html
Posted By: rrhyne56

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 05/26/08 11:16 PM

Yessir, I would have to just start Googling.
Posted By: kelkay

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 05/27/08 12:00 PM

If you really get desperate and have plenty of time on your hands, use Web Ferret...I use the free version. It gives you tons and tons of hits....some not so close to your original idea, and some not as clean as Google...and that kind of ticks me off. I haven't used the program in a long time. But if they can clean it up, and hit a bit closer...it is awesome. I have found stuff on Web Ferret that Google just doesn't show at all in the past. It is worth a shot, but like I said.,,,,it will give you tons of links to look at.
Posted By: builderal

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 05/27/08 12:41 PM

thanks guys!
Posted By: WoollyBugger

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 06/08/08 02:16 AM

I tie them using closed-cell foam for the body. You can use 2 colors sandwiched together if you want to. Just glue them together before tying on the hook. Cut it to shape and length, and then tie the middel of the body on the back of the hook shank. Wrap thread around the extended tail portion of the body to make segments every 3/16" or so. You can make about 4 tight wraps, and that will sink into the foam to create a segment. When you get to the end of the tail, just go back over the exact same segment wraps to get the thread back to the hook.

Now, tie on some rubber legs or black crystal flash or something for the legs up near the head. Wrap thread back to the back of the shank and begin wrapping segments in the body going toward the head this time. When you get to the thorax, tie in some pearl crystal flash (or whatever you want to use for the wings). You can tie two sets of wings or just one. Fish don't care. You can make a larger bulb of a head with the foam, or just tie it the same as the body and end it. Fish don't care as much as fishermen do. smile You can make black or colored bars across the wings (I prefer that).

This fly is durable, and it will float forever. Like any other dragonfly, it'll twist your leader when false casting. But it's worth it. Big hits on topwater are awesome.

I suggest you catch a dragonfly when you're out and take it home - or take a closeup photo of one. You can look at it while tying to make a good copy of the real thing. There are lots of colors and sizes, so try to match the hatch. White closed cell foam can be colored with Pantone pens pretty effectively.

I came up with the foam pattern a few years ago after watching bass LITERALLY jump out of the water and up onto the bank of a stock tank chasing dragonflies. The bass would flop around until they got back into the water. They were chasing big dragonflies that were black with a bright blue top half of their tail. I glued blue foam to some black foam and added segments, wings and legs. I caught lots of fish the next time I went out there. Fun stuff.
Posted By: WoollyBugger

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 06/08/08 02:19 AM

BTW...Hello, y'all. I just found this place. Looks like a great hangout for flyfishing addicts. smile

I'm in Abilene. Been flyfishing for 25 years or so. Love to tie flies and build rods, although I haven't done as much of either lately as I used to. Been tying flies all day with my son. He's 11, and I'm taking him to Colorado next month for his first trip to the Rockies flyfishing. We're both pumped.
Posted By: builderal

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 06/08/08 12:07 PM

thanks wollybuggar,
i went to hobby lobby and bought some craft foam sheets. they have self stick glue and when stuck together make the perfect dfly body.i also found bubble eyes that move - perfect for the head. i found a couple of sheets of prism paper in my wifes xmas paper box - makes the ultimate wing. i have tied a few but the wind has been so bad i havn't been able fish much. i'm fishing at lake fork and getting a little action.

my best bait lately has been my bream imitation.
Posted By: Jerry Hamon

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 06/08/08 02:55 PM

I found some foam dragonflies (and other creatures) on clearance at Hobby Lobby. I tie them similar to the foam frogs and cap spiders. I intend to try them this weekend.
Posted By: kelkay

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 06/08/08 06:20 PM

Welcome WooleyBugger. I think this forum has a great bunch of guys who hang out in here. (I guess I am the only lady) I am new to fly fishing myself, but still do conventional fishing too.

What time of year do the bass hit the dragonfly patterns? I have seen them dead, floating on the lake water surface at a local lake, no fish hit them. (that I saw anyway) I have one dragonfly to my fly arsenal. I did not make it, but plan to after hearing how the fish like them... :-) Hey Wooley you got a pic of the dragonfly pattern you make?
Posted By: WoollyBugger

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 06/08/08 08:08 PM

Thanks for the welcome, y'all. I went to take a picture of one of my flies and realized I was out. So I tied one and took some pics along the way. Here's how I do it for a Blue Dasher (I think that's what the bug I'm imitating is called)....

Step 1: Start with black thread (for this one) and use a short-shanked fairly wide gap hook. A Tiemco 8089 size 10 here. Cut foam strips to size. Tail only is white (or sometimes light blue) on top. Glue them together. I use flexament. You can probably get by without any glue as you'll see, but I do it anyway. When the glue sticks, tie the foam on the hook.




Step 2: This should really be step 1, but I forgot. smile Tie in 3 strands of rubber legs. Leave them connected to each other for now just to keep them out of the way as much as possible.




Step 3: Wrap thread around the blue thorax to make segments. Even though real dragonflies aren't as segmented as this, the fish don't know the difference. Plus it secures the foam to the hook very well.

Next, work the thread through the segments you created back to the tail. Turn the hook around in the vice and create segments down the tail section. When you get to the end of the tail, work the thread back through the segments back to the hook shank.




Step 4: I tie in an underwing of black crystal flash. You could tie two sets on two adjacent segments if you wish, but two sets of wings will cause even more leader twist than one. I stick with one. Again, I don't think a bass cares.




Step 5: I then tie in pearl crystal flash for the wing. When tying crystal flash wings like this, lay the clump of it across the top of the body and wrap thread over it a couple of times. Then move the thread to the other side of the wing facing you and wrap over the other direction. This creates an "X" of thread over the top of the wing material. That holds it down perpendicular to the hook shank.




Step 6: Tie in another strip of blue foam for the head. Lash it town in front of the wings, and then tie it off at the hook eye. Trim the excess carefully, avoiding the thread with your scissors. Whip finish and cement the thread.




Step 7: Use a good marker to mark the eyes, or tie/glue in some other plastic eye. Don't use a lead eye, of course. You want it to float. laugh






Ready to fish.....


Posted By: kelkay

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 06/08/08 08:23 PM

Wow, that is an awesome looking fly. Thanks for sharing that, and going to all that trouble. I feel a trip to Hobby Lobby coming up, or Michael's!!
Posted By: builderal

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 06/08/08 10:03 PM

I'VE BEEN GETTING MY BITES IN THE LATE AFTERNOON AROUND TAILS AND PADS.THE TRICK IS TO STRIP VERY SHORT AND QUICK SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S STILL ALIVE ON THE WATER.TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THE WINGS ARE VIBRATING. MOST HITS COME WHEN THE BUG HITS THE WATER.
Posted By: WoollyBugger

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 06/08/08 10:11 PM

I like short strips between sitting still too. Another thing that works sometimes when it's windy....strip out 10-20' of line (counting the leader) and let the wind blow the fly, dangling it just above the water. If you can do that in the right spot, it can get pretty dramatic.
Posted By: rrhyne56

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 06/09/08 10:35 AM

Great tutorial and thanks so much for going to all that bother to create it.

Texas is dragonfly country and we ought to see some good fishing with that one.
Posted By: kelkay

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 06/09/08 02:51 PM

Builderal, and WooleyBugger those were great hints on using a dragonfly pattern. I used one a bit too early in the spring and didn't get a bite. But now, if I tossed that same fly out there, I bet it would get hit. My dragonfly (store bought) is so pretty I'd hate to use it and lose it. I will make a couple of ones like you showed here for practice...then I will use the other. Your foam one would probably beat mine...funny how lures are sold to us on what we like, and not necessarily what the fish like....I try to buy lures/flies that either look fishy to me, OR from what I hear is good from others. I don't need my boxes filled with pretty stuff that just sits there. I need my boxes to be filled with workable lures. I think I am going to weed some lures/flies out of my arsenal soon, to make more room for GOOD stuff. Even so I hate to throw any lure or fly away...I will store them, or give them away....
Posted By: WoollyBugger

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 06/09/08 04:10 PM

kelkay, I know what you mean. Most fishing lures are made to catch a fisherman. smile

One problem with some of the prettier, more realistic patterns is that some of them just don't function well very long. They may work well until they get wet or until a fish hits them, and then they fall apart or stop floating or something. I've gotten to where I use various types and colors of foam for dry flies of all shapes and sizes. Foam is durable, and it floats forever. Crystal flash wings add that sparkle, but they don't look like a real wing when you hold the fly. But that little thin plastic stuff that does look like a real wing looks like you know what after a few casts or especially after a good strike.

Besides, the fish don't see a fly the same way we do. They are looking at it from underneath, and they are looking through water that is usually less than gin clear with ripples and such. The right general profile and color combined with the right location and action is all we need, I think.

Then there's the time factor. I can tie one of these foam jobs in about 2 minutes (if I'm not taking pictures), and it doesn't cost much. You can tie more realistic stuff, but it takes a long time in comparison. Then you have a pretty fly that you labored over, and you're too proud of to mess up by using it. At least, that's how it goes with me. laugh
Posted By: kelkay

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 06/09/08 11:38 PM

Wooley, I couldn't agree more. I need to keep that in mind. I am so glad you posted on this thread!
Posted By: Bass Bug

Re: Dragonfly Pattern - 06/09/08 11:44 PM

I often wondered why poppers & topwater lures have such nice paintjobs on their backs and 9 out of 10 have a plain white belly
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