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Guide Lanes FYI #15041528 04/09/24 05:31 PM
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Humminbird, Lowrance, Garmin compatible

SOLIX-Srubbing NOT an issue with these Guide Lanes.

Helix/Legacy-Line style and color must be edited within the GROUP according to instructions, or contact Tom Mayne 903-279-9083.

Lowrance-Master/Slave is in affect if your units are networked. In other words, you need to power up the unit Guide Lanes were imported on first.

Garmin-There are only 50 "saved tracks" available in your unit. "Active tracks" are not the same as saved tracks. Guide Lanes will use most of the saved tracks with just one lake loaded. You will need to make room each time by managing them. (Don't kill the messenger) smile

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Last edited by Tom Mayne Fishing Guide Lanes; 04/19/24 08:16 PM.
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Re: Guide Lanes FYI [Re: Tom Mayne Fishing Guide Lanes] #15043371 04/11/24 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Mayne Fishing Guide Lanes
Lowrance-Master/Slave is in affect if your units are networked. In other words, you need to power up the unit Guide Lanes were imported on first.


HERE'S THE COMPLEX ANSWER for LOWRANCE users:

RULE#1:
Waypoints, Routes and Trails are maintained in a UDB database on each unit. With multiple units you have multiple databases and when the multiple units are ethernet-connected you have ONE MASTER UDB and multiple SLAVE UDB's. The MASTER maintains waypoints between all units. Trails are not maintained or transferred between units.

RULE#2:
The MASTER UDB is the 1st unit to be powered on. All the remaining network-units become SLAVE UDB's. If the MASTER is powered-off or rebooted, the SLAVE's will negotiate a new single MASTER.

RULE#3:
ALL WAYPOINTS, ROUTES AND TRAIL IMPORTS ARE ONLY DONE ON THE MASTER UNIT'S UDB. IF YOU IMPORT ON A SLAVE, THE SLAVE WILL TRANSFER THE USR OR GPX FILE TO THE MASTER.


So following the above rules:

The Simple Import:
You import your SD-card into the MASTER. The USR or GPX data-file data is imported into the MASTER's UDB. The MASTER transfers waypoints, but not trails to all the SLAVES. So the SLAVES have none of the imported trails.

The Misunderstood Import:
You import your SD-card into a SLAVE. The USR or GPX data-file is transferred to the MASTER unit(rule#3). The MASTER unit imports transferred data-file into the MASTER's UDB. The MASTER transfers waypoints, but not trails to all the SLAVES. So the SLAVES have none of the imported trails. Thus the SLAVE unit you are using "appears" to only have imported waypoints.

Import Consideration #1(Importing Trails):
Trails do not transfer from MASTER to any SLAVE. Trails can only be imported onto a MASTER, hence common practice is to only power-on a single unit and perform the import. Do this individually on each unit where you want the trails.

Import Consideration #2:
USR version 5 and after introduced data UID(Unique Identifiers) for waypoints and trails. UID's better identify data. Better prevent duplicates.

Import Consideration #3:
USR version 5 and after because of UID's often import faster especially when merging with existing data. Merging can painfully slow down an import.

Import Consideration #4:
Importing GPX file data into existing data is notorious for creating duplicate waypoints.

Lowrance Trails:
Some say trails, some say tracks. Lowrance absolutely has better trails than HB and Garmin. Trails can be used for boat-runs, road-beds, creeks and etc. I'm not a route fan because of all the extra waypoints.

Lowrance trails support track-segmentation. HB does. Garmin does not.

HB Solix has the very dangerous "track-point scrubbing", other HB products are spotty.

Lowrance trails use much fewer track-points, thus much more efficient.

Lowrance trails always display at all zoom-levels even if the 2 track-points are miles apart. HB does not. I don't know about Garmin.

The best waypoint manager:
Reefmaster Waypoint Manager for Lowrance

Don't tell Lowrance, keep it quite:
Lowrance can support more than 300 tracks, not the documented 50 maximum.

Last edited by LittleGazoo; 04/13/24 04:43 PM.
Re: Guide Lanes FYI [Re: Tom Mayne Fishing Guide Lanes] #15043811 04/11/24 07:00 PM
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Re: Guide Lanes FYI [Re: Tom Mayne Fishing Guide Lanes] #15044302 04/12/24 12:56 PM
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If I have multiple Garmins is there a way to store 50 tracks on each and they will network? Or is it 50 per network?

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Originally Posted by goodman_fishing
If I have multiple Garmins is there a way to store 50 tracks on each and they will network? Or is it 50 per network?



I might be doing it wrong but I have a bunch of Tom's cards and unless it's a lake I am on a lot I simply download tve cards for the particular lake I will be on then I delete it afterwards. It keeps my units less cluttered.

Re: Guide Lanes FYI [Re: Tom Mayne Fishing Guide Lanes] #15045166 04/13/24 03:32 PM
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I run 1 Garmin GPSMAP & my assumptions are sometimes wrong. So I'm assuming from experience the following:

Garmin limit is 50 tracks per unit.

You can share waypoints, tracks, and routes with all compatible devices connected to the Garmin® Marine Network (Ethernet) automatically.
Select Nav Info > Manage Data > User Data Sharing > On.
Most users would want to have sharing on for waypoint sharing.

That said, tracks are also shared(synchronized). But unit limit is 50.

So you go about the day creating tracks until you have 50 tracks and they're synchronized across the network.
Now your network is maxed cause unit max is 50. So on a fully synchronized network, the network max is also 50.

But what happens if 2 offline units with 30 tracks each are brought into network sharing? 30+30=60. This would be rare and should be avoided.
You'll need to call Garmin Support to answer that.

Yes you could turn off User Data Sharing on units making each a stand-alone unit. With lost functionality and data management headache.

Mark is correct you need to manage your data.

Garmin needs to support the GPX track-segmentation industry-wide standard or support 300 or more track maximum.

Correct me if information is wrong and I'll edit this posting.

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Re: Guide Lanes FYI [Re: Tom Mayne Fishing Guide Lanes] #15057118 04/26/24 12:54 PM
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Re: Guide Lanes FYI [Re: Tom Mayne Fishing Guide Lanes] #15057911 04/27/24 11:10 AM
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Tom,

Do your map lanes work with a Helix gen 1. I know Premium Lakemaster don’t work in the gen 1.

Thanks, Chuck.


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Originally Posted by Vette1125
Tom,
Do your map lanes work with a Helix gen 1. I know Premium Lakemaster don’t work in the gen 1.
Thanks, Chuck.

Not Tom, but Yes.

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