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Re: Cowboys RB Depth Chart - Somethings missing
[Re: TBassYates]
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04/30/24 03:15 PM
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For what it's worth, I really like the strategy the Cowboys used in this draft. Not talking about the players per say, but the positions they prioritized.
1st - OT 2nd - DE 3rd - OL 3rd - LB 5th - CB 6th - WR 7th - OL 7th - DT
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Re: Cowboys RB Depth Chart - Somethings missing
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04/30/24 03:30 PM
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What's missing is a Running Back beat me to the punch line absolutely
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Re: Cowboys RB Depth Chart - Somethings missing
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04/30/24 03:53 PM
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There will be a number of RB's available after cutdown at the end of preseason
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Re: Cowboys RB Depth Chart - Somethings missing
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05/01/24 12:52 PM
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Samsonsworld
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Finally got a chance to look at some of these guys. I am not impressed with any of the newbies, especially Elliott.
I will say if they don't figure out a way to use Deuce Vaughn, one; they're idiots, and two; somebody else will. He is way too explosive not to be utilized for anything but mop up duty.
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Re: Cowboys RB Depth Chart - Somethings missing
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05/01/24 12:53 PM
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I say we just hand the ball off to Jerry on every play.
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Re: Cowboys RB Depth Chart - Somethings missing
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05/01/24 12:56 PM
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For what it's worth, I really like the strategy the Cowboys used in this draft. Not talking about the players per say, but the positions they prioritized.
1st - OT 2nd - DE 3rd - OL 3rd - LB 5th - CB 6th - WR 7th - OL 7th - DT I agree it was a pretty good draft IMHO
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. - Soren Kierkegaard
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Re: Cowboys RB Depth Chart - Somethings missing
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05/01/24 12:56 PM
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What's missing is a Running Back beat me to the punch line absolutely Yeah. What do they say about QBs? If you have 2 QBs you have no QBs. If you have 5 RBs you have no RBs.
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. - Soren Kierkegaard
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Re: Cowboys RB Depth Chart - Somethings missing
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05/01/24 01:12 PM
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Could have signed the Mizzou RB. But the 49ers signed him.
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Re: Cowboys RB Depth Chart - Somethings missing
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05/01/24 01:20 PM
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Oh you experts have forgotten the old days with John Riggins, Larry Zonka, Otis Anderson and old school football. Get you a good offensive line and run the goddam football down their [censored] throat. Last year the Eagles had that down in the first half of the season, then they kind of abandoned it and started throwing the ball and went down hill. Those backs were not special, they were just phsical.
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Re: Cowboys RB Depth Chart - Somethings missing
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05/01/24 03:09 PM
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[quote=David Welcher]Oh you experts have forgotten the old days with John Riggins, Larry Zonka, Otis Anderson and old school football. Get you a good offensive line and run the goddam football down their [censored] throat. Last year the Eagles had that down in the first half of the season, then they kind of abandoned it and started throwing the ball and went down hill. Those backs were not special, they were just phsical.[/quote
RIGGO!!!
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Re: Cowboys RB Depth Chart - Somethings missing
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05/01/24 06:29 PM
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They Missouri running back Nathaniel Peat same day they re-signed Zeke. Plus they signed a HUGE TE 6'7" 270lb fellow named Brevyn Spann-Ford. I believe more for his blocking than catching.
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Re: Cowboys RB Depth Chart - Somethings missing
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05/01/24 09:38 PM
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Samsonsworld
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Yep, the Cowboys are all in. All in the stands during the next super bowl.
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Re: Cowboys RB Depth Chart - Somethings missing
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What's missing in the cowboys RB depth chart is talent. Tons of stud RBs available on FA market for a fraction of what they last paid Zeke. But when you kick the can down the road for 15 years, this is what you end up with. I still believe they are not done with the running back room, there will be a trade or they will pick up a back that has been released because of salary cap. Possible. Zeke isn't a bad option except that he's a running back that can't run with the football. Nobody will stack the box against him at all and I expect full pass rush from the front 5-6 and dime/nickel coverage on the back end anytime he's in. Honest question - if you were made GM of the cowboys with the goal to win a super bowl as soon as possible, would you stick with this group and try to improve each year knowing you can always pick up enough guys to not have a top 15 pick? Or would you stop signing guys that won't be contributors 2+ years from now and focus on building youth and getting 1-2 years of early picks to really build the talent more quickly. I mean there are teams that spent the same first round pick as we did on guys who are much more talented, less risky, and more NFL-ready than Guyton. They were ok with having bad seasons so they could build for the future. Money for Jerry aside, do you think the approach makes sense if your goal is to win super bowls? Just curious on your thoughts. It is a business, a huge business, not fantasy football, if I were making hundreds of millions, had millions of fans, was putting a competitive team on the field, why the hell would I want to blow all of that up ? There are no guarantees that getting a bunch of draft picks will ever work out, picking a QB is nothing but a [censored] shoot most of the time. Now you are claiming that the Cowboys made a bad pick in Guyton ?? What are you basing that on ? Did you claim the same thing about Tyler Smith, Micah Parsons, Travis Frederick ?? I think the Cowboys know just a little bit more about the players they pick than the ones you think they should pick.
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Re: Cowboys RB Depth Chart - Somethings missing
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05/02/24 01:27 AM
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patriot07
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What's missing in the cowboys RB depth chart is talent. Tons of stud RBs available on FA market for a fraction of what they last paid Zeke. But when you kick the can down the road for 15 years, this is what you end up with. I still believe they are not done with the running back room, there will be a trade or they will pick up a back that has been released because of salary cap. Possible. Zeke isn't a bad option except that he's a running back that can't run with the football. Nobody will stack the box against him at all and I expect full pass rush from the front 5-6 and dime/nickel coverage on the back end anytime he's in. Honest question - if you were made GM of the cowboys with the goal to win a super bowl as soon as possible, would you stick with this group and try to improve each year knowing you can always pick up enough guys to not have a top 15 pick? Or would you stop signing guys that won't be contributors 2+ years from now and focus on building youth and getting 1-2 years of early picks to really build the talent more quickly. I mean there are teams that spent the same first round pick as we did on guys who are much more talented, less risky, and more NFL-ready than Guyton. They were ok with having bad seasons so they could build for the future. Money for Jerry aside, do you think the approach makes sense if your goal is to win super bowls? Just curious on your thoughts. It is a business, a huge business, not fantasy football, if I were making hundreds of millions, had millions of fans, was putting a competitive team on the field, why the hell would I want to blow all of that up ? There are no guarantees that getting a bunch of draft picks will ever work out, picking a QB is nothing but a [censored] shoot most of the time. Now you are claiming that the Cowboys made a bad pick in Guyton ?? What are you basing that on ? Did you claim the same thing about Tyler Smith, Micah Parsons, Travis Frederick ?? I think the Cowboys know just a little bit more about the players they pick than the ones you think they should pick. Competitive with who? This team isn't remotely competitive in the playoffs and hasn't been for 2 plus decades. I don't think Cowboys made a bad pick with Guyton. I said already (on this thread I think) that they had a pretty good draft. But it's very difficult to get top level talent with 20 other teams picking ahead of you. And you aren't going to be competitive without top level talent, especially at QB. Bears used a first round pick just like us, but they're set for the next decade at QB. Several other teams also have a great chance at being set for the long haul. We know our QB can't win in January, and we're paying him 5x what those younger and not 2-5 in the playoffs QBs are getting. You can't compete for a super bowl like this. If we're ok with that, just say you're ok with them not being competitive for a super bowl. IMHO, if Jerry isn't gonna compete for a super bowl, he should sell and let someone else who wants to win run the team. I'm not saying you have to give up being 10-6 permanently. But if they want to be a real contender, they'd have to give it up for a year or two. Your posts are so dramatic. I never said you had to give it all up for good, never said Guyton wasn't a good pick, never said any of those other guys sucked. I just said I would much rather have a year or two of sucking to have a future than to continue not being a real contender and also not having a future.
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. - Soren Kierkegaard
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Re: Cowboys RB Depth Chart - Somethings missing
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05/02/24 02:10 AM
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Happykamper
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What a novel idea, tank for a couple of years ( after three 12 - 4 seasons in a row ) so you can get higher draft picks, tell all your players to not play hard, try and lose, I bet that would go over really well, wonder how the veteran players are going to feel about that ? So the Bears are set for 10 years at QB ? Will he be a first ballot hall of famer ? To borrow a quote from Bill Parcells to Tony Romo, " You remind me of a football in tall grass " What does that mean ? LOST !
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