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Re: HS tournament on PK
[Re: Barrett]
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05/03/24 01:56 PM
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JackMason
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THSBA WEATHER POLICY. You think TD followed policy?
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Re: HS tournament on PK
[Re: CubbyObrien]
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05/03/24 02:12 PM
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Txduckhunter
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This thread is better than the FFS sonar ones and BM threads Ultimately, its the boat captains and parents responsibility,,,,,IMO Depending on day - HS fishing is the only thing hated by the olds worse than BM or FFS.
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Re: HS tournament on PK
[Re: nfhbass]
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05/03/24 02:14 PM
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Strugglebus
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I’m hoping one of the captains posts a video to YouTube wirh pro tips on how to avoid being struck by lightning while continuing to fish through a thunderstorm. Someone earlier on here said there was skill to it, looking forward to some tips I didnt say there was skill involved in dodging lightning, genius. Read what I wrote, ask your mom for help with the big words if needed. I work with kids on the spectrum every day. I am starting to understand you a little better I think.
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Re: HS tournament on PK
[Re: JackMason]
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05/03/24 02:35 PM
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nfhbass
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THSBA WEATHER POLICY. You think TD followed policy? From what I’ve gathered, they looked at a weather forecast before the event started, which per the NWS said there would not be severe weather, and then they let it go all day. Why was it not suspended after severe weather came into the area, that’s the question. I’ve heard a lot of, “well they can’t do that because they can’t get that message out to everyone”. It sounds like they can, through an app, perhaps the app is no good, and they need to invest in a mass text service, ok. So, I would say no, the policy was not followed. I know if I was competing I would want to compete against a full field, not against the few that remained because I was too stubborn to come off the water while everyone else had left and gone home. Too hot, too cold, too wet is one thing. Lightning is something else.
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Re: HS tournament on PK
[Re: Strugglebus]
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05/03/24 02:48 PM
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nfhbass
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I’m hoping one of the captains posts a video to YouTube wirh pro tips on how to avoid being struck by lightning while continuing to fish through a thunderstorm. Someone earlier on here said there was skill to it, looking forward to some tips I didnt say there was skill involved in dodging lightning, genius. Read what I wrote, ask your mom for help with the big words if needed. I work with kids on the spectrum every day. I am starting to understand you a little better I think. I know exactly what you wrote, and it could be interpreted two ways. 1. Kids learned from coming off the water because of lightning 2. Kids learned by staying on the water. Your message wasn’t written well, don’t get that confused with me not understanding “big words”, you didn’t use any, teacher. Nice jab thinking I’m on an autism spectrum, I’m not, but if I was I wouldn’t be ashamed of it. I would be embarrassed to be you, especially if you are a special ed teacher. Nobody is sending the right message to kids if you allow them to fish in lightning. Period. That’s IMO the role of a TD for HS. There shouldn’t be luck involved in safety.
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Re: HS tournament on PK
[Re: Barrett]
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05/03/24 03:11 PM
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Strugglebus
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Hmmmm.... not being able to correctly interpret what other people are saying is one of the key things we look for when diagnosing Au. Sorry if I hit a nerve. Some others are not understanding sarcasm, fixating on topics (FFS, old people, Randy), repetitive behaviors (FFS, old people, Randy), inability to correctly assess their own actions, seeming blunt, rude, or having little interest in what others think or say, taking things too literally, and having no friends.
I am glad you would not be ashamed of it, but accepting it and understanding it go a long way in getting help. There is no shame in getting help either.
As for kids fishing in a lightning storm, that is obviously a bad choice. But if we just keep them indoors any time the weather human (do not want to be sexist and offensive) says we might have bad weather doesn't teach them anything. My original point that you had difficulty understanding was that in a situation like the one that occurred, The life time skills that hopefully the captains possess can be passed on when a storm pops up on the water. Things such as when should we get off the water, where should we go, how to tell how close lightning is based on seeing it then hearing thunder, how to read a weather app on your phone, when is it safe to fish again, etc. These are important things that should be taught, and are best taught on the water.
I hope this was written well enough for you to be able to understand.
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Re: HS tournament on PK
[Re: Strugglebus]
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05/03/24 03:26 PM
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nfhbass
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Hmmmm.... not being able to correctly interpret what other people are saying is one of the key things we look for when diagnosing Au. Sorry if I hit a nerve. Some others are not understanding sarcasm, fixating on topics (FFS, old people, Randy), repetitive behaviors (FFS, old people, Randy), inability to correctly assess their own actions, seeming blunt, rude, or having little interest in what others think or say, taking things too literally, and having no friends.
I am glad you would not be ashamed of it, but accepting it and understanding it go a long way in getting help. There is no shame in getting help either.
As for kids fishing in a lightning storm, that is obviously a bad choice. But if we just keep them indoors any time the weather human (do not want to be sexist and offensive) says we might have bad weather doesn't teach them anything. My original point that you had difficulty understanding was that in a situation like the one that occurred, The life time skills that hopefully the captains possess can be passed on when a storm pops up on the water. Things such as when should we get off the water, where should we go, how to tell how close lightning is based on seeing it then hearing thunder, how to read a weather app on your phone, when is it safe to fish again, etc. These are important things that should be taught, and are best taught on the water.
I hope this was written well enough for you to be able to understand. Wow. You’ve come to a fishing forum to diagnose a stranger with autism. How many gold stars do you want? It’s a school day, maybe you should go back to being a teacher, since you’re doing it for all the right reasons.
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Re: HS tournament on PK
[Re: Barrett]
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05/03/24 03:31 PM
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Strugglebus
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hahahahahahahaha, come on, you know that was funny. And well written. And a great part of of being a Behavior Specialist is that in between melt downs I get to bust your chops on here. But I do appreciate your concern that I am neglecting my students!
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Re: HS tournament on PK
[Re: Strugglebus]
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05/03/24 04:35 PM
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nfhbass
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hahahahahahahaha, come on, you know that was funny. And well written. And a great part of of being a Behavior Specialist is that in between melt downs I get to bust your chops on here. But I do appreciate your concern that I am neglecting my students! I probably have autism, some days I wish I was on rain man’s level (able to read both pages of a book at the same time) but, I’m not into labels, so I’ll continue to go undiagnosed, if that’s okay with you? If it isn’t the td role to suspend competition when stubborn captains are still out there fishing with kids that don’t know better, , then who’s role is it? You don’t usually get a second chance with lightning.
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Re: HS tournament on PK
[Re: JackMason]
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05/03/24 05:17 PM
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grandbassslayer
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THSBA WEATHER POLICY. You think TD followed policy? This is all completely irrelevant. When you saddle up and hit the water you can use that grey matter between your ears and decide what to do. I get us men don’t have much of a prefrontal cortex but it’s insulting to say that people need someone else to tell them to get off the water.
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Re: HS tournament on PK
[Re: Barrett]
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05/03/24 05:22 PM
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Strugglebus
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Sorry bud, I believe labels are connected to funding. You need a label. We are going to have to set you up with 2 district paid specialists. We probably wont change anything on your Individualized Education Plan, and we certainly wont hire any more staff to support you, however. I get your point. The real problem with MY argument is that I doubt all or most of the captains have the skills that should be passed on, and some of them undoubtedly cant say no to their kids. So maybe someone needs to make that call for them. But I should not have had to tell you the fallacy of my argument. Come on, youngster, do better.
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Re: HS tournament on PK
[Re: grandbassslayer]
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05/03/24 05:29 PM
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JackMason
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[quote=JackMason]THSBA WEATHER POLICY. You think TD followed policy? This is all completely irrelevant. When you saddle up and hit the water you can use that grey matter between your ears and decide what to do. I get us men don’t have much of a prefrontal cortex but it’s insulting to say that people need someone else to tell them to get o
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Re: HS tournament on PK
[Re: JackMason]
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05/03/24 05:39 PM
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JackMason
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[quote=JackMason]THSBA WEATHER POLICY. You think TD followed policy? This is all completely irrelevant. When you saddle up and hit the water you can use that grey matter between your ears and decide what to do. I get us men don’t have much of a prefrontal cortex but it’s insulting to say that people need someone else to tell them to get o There a written policy that the TD is responsible for regarding dangerous weather that you should read. Did the TD follow the written policy? It's a yes or no question.
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Re: HS tournament on PK
[Re: Barrett]
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05/03/24 05:54 PM
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grandbassslayer
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I don’t know I tend to think for myself. Honestly if I was a captain I’d make a call- regardless of what anyone else decided to do.
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Re: HS tournament on PK
[Re: JackMason]
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05/03/24 06:59 PM
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nfhbass
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[quote=JackMason]THSBA WEATHER POLICY. You think TD followed policy? This is all completely irrelevant. When you saddle up and hit the water you can use that grey matter between your ears and decide what to do. I get us men don’t have much of a prefrontal cortex but it’s insulting to say that people need someone else to tell them to get o There a written policy that the TD is responsible for regarding dangerous weather that you should read. Did the TD follow the written policy? It's a yes or no question. Jack. You’re 100% correct. At the top of that document it says “policy”. This is how I’ve always operated. Policy = rules. Guidance = advice. The document should be a guide if it isn’t going to be followed as it’s written. I remember one very stormy Friday night my senior year in high school. We were set to play a rival for football, we got through warm ups and a storm that was forecasted to miss our area hammered with lightning. We waited it out, until it got too late. We were ready to go, and if you’d have asked us if we wanted to wait until the next day we would have said no, let’s go. Luckily we had smarter coaches and officials that followed a few things, common sense and policy. Trust me. I learned just as much waiting until the next day. I definitely didn’t feel like the government was overstepping and infringing on my right to play a football game. There is something about avoiding unnecessary risk that just makes sense and like many things in life there are some that like to expose themselves and others to it, too bad, especially when kids are involved. I have a suspicion that there was more to this situation. Maybe eventually the truth will come out, hopefully nobody dies before it does.
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